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Symio: Missus' 1.6 16v CC: el.PAS, cambelt, clutch, and more
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Edward
PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2018 6:44 pm Up
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Do you think those hubs are the same as oe peugeot parts? Seems a strange thing for the aftermarket to bother making.
2001 GTi 138, Bilstein Sprint dampers, H&R springs, 21mm Peugeot Sport torsion bars, 22mm rear ARB, Peugeot Sport Group A wishbones, 283mm discs, Goodridge stainless hoses, Maniflow 304 grade 4-2-1 2.5" manifold and system, 200 cell cat, Richard Longman head, 45mm Jenvey throttle bodies, 9.5mm TB spacers, 90mm air horns, Jenvey throttle linkage, Jenvey fuel rail, Aeromotive and Goodridge fuel fittings and braided hose, ITG sausage filter, Radtec custom radiator, Piper Ultimate Road cams, Piper vernier pulleys, Omex 600 ECU. Saxo electric PAS pump, Vibra Technics engine mounts. Samco coolant hoses, TTV steel flywheel, 4.76 final drive ratio. 2013 Volkswagen CC GT 2.0 TSi. 2013 mercedes B180
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dedeno1 wrote:
Good job, it's beautiful
Thank you Smile
You can imagine how car looks underneath if so much rust munched many top layers of the old hubs.
Next up will be to de-rust and coat the underside before the winter sets in (they were already Salt Spreading the M5 yesterday Sad )

Edward wrote:
Do you think those hubs are the same as oe peugeot parts? Seems a strange thing for the aftermarket to bother making.
It only misses a ridge cutout where the square-head bolt sits, otherwise they look and feel of the same cast. Even the wheel alignment didn't go off with these new knuckles.

Maybe they got hold of an old mould from Coventry and decided to make a few quid, selling it at half the dealer's price. Comes with 1 year warranty, probably shouldn't be worried now if they passed compliance tests for rigidity Very Happy Otherwise aftermarket lower arms would also have horror stories Smile

EDIT: hmm this Neat Car Parts sell new knuckles also for Renaults, Citroens, Fords, Vauxhalls..

2.0 HDi, year 2000 (odd knock near the sump, will be going under the scalpel)
GTi 180, year 2004 (probationaly daily)
Missus' 1.6 16v CC, year 2007 (rear quarter cut'n'weld pending)
..couple more Franco/American-made/owned ones, journey depending
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Sim wrote:
dedeno1 wrote:
Good job, it's beautiful
Thank you Smile
You can imagine how car looks underneath if so much rust munched many top layers of the old hubs.
Next up will be to de-rust and coat the underside before the winter sets in (they were already Salt Spreading the M5 yesterday Sad )

I imagine, we have a lot of snow in a part of France here !

I'm more and more interested to put rustproof under the 206 every year, like in Canada !

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Time for a long overdue update.
Been otherwise busy over past months with prepping the X-Type for the winter roadtrips -- by far the best investment, as I couldn't get stuck in the snow even after deliberate attempts Very Happy

All this means I ran out of time to rustproof the 206, so just gave a good ole wash up-and-under before more saltspreadders kicked in
 


Notice how I went overboard with tyre silk and forgot to remove the excess, which meant another wash soon after DOH!!!
 

Can't be too clean I guess Smile

Few weeks later the electric PAS pump didn't start up, silver lining as I wanted to see what it'd feel like to drive with it off. However I did park round the block and saw the fluid surging up and out of the reservoir. Luckily, the pump started on the next crank, and I could reach the garage at ease.

So everyone who's thinking to simply add a dash switch for their ePAS pumps, think twice as the fluid is still moved about from the steering rack and you might end up with a huge mess in the engine bay Wink I hope some cut-off-bypasses exist for such cases though.

The pump itself developed a leak, as aptly observed by Pez due to being too close to the exhaust manifold, the plastic membrane within warped and started slowly trickling through the reservoir onto the alternator and the drivebelt:
 


I then parked the car for good, so it didn't see more of this winter's salt Smile
Soon after the holidays I ordered an identical electric pump, but it came with the cracked bracket that holds the reservoir, due to ally oxidising and swelling defying all forces that hold it together:
 


Also seeing that it will take too much time making a heatshield, I've sent the pump back (after repairing it for them using the good parts from mine Wink ) and put the power steering back to standard.

Electric pump is much nicer, there are no "flat spots" under engine load/low RPMs, and is a tad stronger than the belt-driven one.
Also you can adjust the pressure valve, to make it stronger or weaker (as explained here)
I'll certainly consider it in my future projects, tucked away from heat sources (yet I still liked the idea of reusing original piping!), and experimenting with the pressure regulator -- use it at your own risk of bursting pipes/seals Wink

Been driving the CC hoping that nothing else will come up and I can put it to rest waiting for missus' driving test, when a nightmare with the front wheel bearing began Evil or Very Mad but that's gonna be in the next thread update Smile

2.0 HDi, year 2000 (odd knock near the sump, will be going under the scalpel)
GTi 180, year 2004 (probationaly daily)
Missus' 1.6 16v CC, year 2007 (rear quarter cut'n'weld pending)
..couple more Franco/American-made/owned ones, journey depending
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Since replacing the passenger's side hubs and bearings, at some point the car started to feel a bit wander-y.
Quick check revealed quite a bit of play in the brand new bearing (the parts that sandwich it were also brand new!) but no noise/rumbling.

So either I've seated the bearing incorrectly (pressed+tightened), or something's more sinister..

(several Wall Bang s later)

Here are the differences between the old and the new hub assemblies. Don't mind the inner race protruding, it's just one ole knackered bearing Smile :
 

You can see a coat of rust on the cheap paint job of the swivel hub, eyes on Andrew's powder coats now to see how they'll fare.

Still see no difference? Wink
 


The taper of the brand new Febi hub shaft is different, and goes farther up the driveshaft:
 

vs
 


All the more, it is 0.5mm longer altogether than the assumed stock:
 


Thus when you do up the hub nut, you end up "squeezing" the hub shaft rather than the bearing.

Solution would be to wet'n'dry sand the hub down, but c'mon Febi!..
I didn't have time to experiment, so I simply pressed the same bearing and the old hub face, been happily driving since with no play! Twisted Evil

Question though, how come the driver's side's fine if it's using the exact same new parts? I'll keep an eye on that. I'll also need to measure the distance between the pressing surfaces of the driveshaft and the hub face, using the old spares I've got kicking about.

To tick off the list of mechanical niggles, replaced the track rod end which had a knackered dust cap:
 


Now that the car was mechanically sound, it was time to do the tracking (after having swapped front wheels to the rear due to slightly worn outer tyre edge "thanks" to the toe-in):
 


It became a proper delight throwing her about in the B-road corners due to all this extra low-down weight the CC has! Such a shame this been tuned for comfort and I can't get me no lows Very Happy

After spending winter at the unit where loads of metal grinding and sanding took place, car deserved to be decontaminated with Iron-X (this lemon scent really kills the rotten egg bit!), so it turned out to be a Sundae Sunday DOH!!!
 

 


Next I've been toying about adjusting door windows so they shut properly yet don't leak, I tell ya it's a form of art that I found myself far from mastering Smile

2.0 HDi, year 2000 (odd knock near the sump, will be going under the scalpel)
GTi 180, year 2004 (probationaly daily)
Missus' 1.6 16v CC, year 2007 (rear quarter cut'n'weld pending)
..couple more Franco/American-made/owned ones, journey depending
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